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Sean Carroll on evolution denialists.. by rationalhub Sean Carroll on evolution denialists.. by rationalhub
Haha, Perfik. Love professor Carroll's works too.
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notanartist7 Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2013
And the evolution challengers response: "Alright, we'll call it a draw."
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MenollySagittaria Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I think "Intelligent Design" is a useful term that can be re-tooled to express that God has put creation into motion through evolution . . .
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LOVE this quote!!!!!
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Thinker1988 Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2012
LOL, who opposes evolution is so pathetic.
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Schatten-Drache Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah, sad but true....
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LolitheLeopard Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I've said it before, and I'll say it again...
The only difference between Mentally handicapped people and Creationists is the Creationists are retarded by choice!;)
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CorvusCorax92 Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Haha Great analogy! Plus, I love that movie - anything Monty Python really, but this one in particular. :D
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Aneyolf Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2012
:lol:

Works on people who are so utterly opposed to homosexuality also.
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MenollySagittaria Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
How so . . .?
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Aneyolf Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012
Because they cling to arguments against homosexuality that are easily refuted. Just like the do in opposition of Evolution. No matter how you tear down their arguments, they ignore logic and reality.
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MenollySagittaria Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Arguments like homosexual men have a higher incidence of AIDS?

Arguments like the insurance companies premiums would rise with the new influx of high-risk "marriages"?

Arguments like there are truly people who have molded their sexuality, which is often fluid anyway?

I'm not advocating for or against- I'm just saying the debate isn't as clean-cut as people like to think.

And certainly not as clear-cut as evolution.

If you want to convince Christians specifically, however, this essay analyzing the Bible is interesting. [link]
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Aneyolf Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
"Arguments like homosexual men have a higher incidence of AIDS?"

So? Black men have higher incidents of heart disease and lung cancer. Besides, AIDS is becoming less an issue because more of us are being far more careful. I'm not worried about it because my boyfriend is the only person I do anything with and vice versa. This argument is old and tired.

"Arguments like the insurance companies premiums would rise with the new influx of high-risk "marriages"?"

Define "high risk marriages." But yes, lets deny people their happiness and equal rights because you (rhetorical) want to save a buck. How nice.

"Arguments like there are truly people who have molded their sexuality, which is often fluid anyway?"

Site your source for this information. Everything I've ever read from doctors, geneticists, biologists... anyone and everyone who studies and works in the field will tell you they DO NOT KNOW what causes it. They have no clue what causes anyone to fall in love with anyone else. As far as they can see, it's all within the mind and that's something yet to be fully understood. NO ONE can control who they fall in love with. It just happens.

Even with our lack of fully understanding it, it comes down to this... two consenting adults fall in love with each other and wish to get married, they should be able to just like anyone else.

It may not be as "clear-cut", but it is similar and that's what I was originally alluding too. It comes down to people. People having the opportunity like everyone to live their own life/lives as they see fit and to marry the person they love. That's pretty clear cut to me.
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MenollySagittaria Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Heart disease and lung cancer aren't communicable diseases. :-/

AIDS doesn't only spread by sex, either.

Cause is different from how "flexible" sexuality is. No matter if it's genetic or social, it's fluid, not rigid. And much more complex than most allow for.

How does not extending the institution of marriage keep anyone from living their lives and choosing their s.o. as they see fit?
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Aneyolf Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012
I know those aren't communicable diseases, but those are two conditions that affect a certain population more so than others, and with proper precautions both can also usually be prevented.

Duh.

You are still the only person I've ever heard of who thinks our orientations are "flexible." The only other people who even come close are groups backed by religion, and we all know they have their agendas. I will agree that younger teenage guys are more "flexible" because they are the most hormonally driven group there are. ANYTHING can get them off. As we age, we learn what our body and mind wants. That is something NO ONE can change. They can choose to act out on it or not, but it is NOT going to change their orientation.

In a lot of cases it doesn't. But say for example if I, or my b/f of nearly seven years, ends up in a hospital for any reason, we don't have the same rights as a married couple. If they are in intensive care, or in a life and death situation, we aren't allowed to be with each other. Yeah, married couples have extra benefits under the government, but just because we can't control who we are, we aren't allowed the same benefits as any other couple in love? This is not up for the government, nor anyone else to decide. Under the US Constitution, we're all guaranteed equal rights. Your rights end where mine begin and so on and so forth. This means even having this up for popular vote is not constitutional. Voting on the rights of another group of human beings flies in the face of what this country is supposed to be.
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MenollySagittaria Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Exactly. "Usually." And they are communicable.

While women are more susceptible to STDs (hence a scientific basis for encouraging us, women to be discreet) so too are, on average, homosexual male pairs (for biological reasons I'd rather not get into because major squick.)

Yeah, so forgive people if they treat it like smoking or other "high-risk" behaviors. i.e., should be discouraged. It's simply something you have to deal with, just like the crudely named "slut-shaming." Never mind the positive underlying belief that people should not measure their worth or life by how much sex they have.

Orientation isn't nearly as straight-laced or simple as people think. For example: [link]

As for the hospital example, I believe people should be able to legally tap people who they trust, whether it's friends, gf, bf, etc. Civil Unions and/or Domestic Partnerships should evolve to become a legal status (that doesn't even necessarily include sexual relations- simple roomates and housemates should have the option). I think this would contribute to greater interpersonal interaction, community, and stability that does not interfere with religious beliefs of others.
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serget2 Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2012
"I can still bite you" hhaaaargrrr. I love that scene, great analogy.
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MamaLucia Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
"I AM INVINCIBLE!!!!" :rofl:
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notanartist7 Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2013
"You're a looney."
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MamaLucia Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
:rofl: :lmao: :D :D :D
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whyhavedeactivedpage Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
hhhhhhhaaaaaaa XD
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