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Couldn't have said it better myself. As my friend puts it, we must reclaim our humanity from those who would stipulate it into their dogma.
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Gothic-Bunny-13 Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
So many homophobic comments on here... XD
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BrutalityInc Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2014
Who gave anyone the right over others concerning relationship with others? Who gave anyone 

Or ownership of their bodies?
Or gender roles in society?
Or belief or absence there-of?
Or what they should or should not learn?

When you think about it, and break down their reasons to their fundamental components, one'll realize that ultimately, no one has the right to define what is right and wrong for others. This is something everyone has equal rights to decide for themselves.

Yet throughout history, there are always people who would stomp on the freedom of others, backing their beliefs with with faith or some abstract ideals. Which they always self-righteously force down people's throats, whether by abusing the law, or a gun at the back of people's heads.

It has to stop. One way, or another, it will stop. 
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AngelsOfEmpathy Featured By Owner May 1, 2013  Professional Artist
Simon Jenkins needs to be slapped, he's stupid and does not know what he is talking about.
Humans were put on Earth by God and we HAVE to acknowledge Him and His laws.
The Bible TELLS oh so clearly what is right in a relationship, and he guess what, if you follow it, EVERYTHING works out incredibly in life.
Fact is is that you cannot reclaim your humanity as it's a gift, a blessing, you're supposed to use it wisely not prance about making yourself look unfortunate and wearing near-rainbow banners which wont get you into Heaven, wont give you a normal life and wont fill the hole in your heart.
Remember, God made humanity and he can take it away faster then you can blink. People need to get off this humanity needy horse, they're only digging their own hole. This Simon is just appeasing the homosexuals, kind of like blowing yourself up to appease the terrorists.
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TehTadpoleJackson Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
"If you follow it, EVERYTHING works out incredibly in life."
Oh really? I suppose these people are just terrible sinners then.
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oblivionartcraft132 Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2014
they not abusing god's creation, they just choosing how to live, bestiality is definitely a sin no doubt, everyone should agree me on this one, if you're curious why im bring in man on animal intercourse here i'm just making a example. If it offensives to you. I apologize. Plus i hate metrosexuals(this is how it spelled not heterosexuals) who dress themselves in clothes that just disgust me, you know the phrase "clothes say a lot about you" what happens this man is wearing mesh shirts and wearing shorts, shorter than any clothes i had ever seen, what does that say about you?
getting back on topic, AngelsOfEmpathy, after all, god is can see all and sees your soul, so why not show your true self(not through clothing) but through relationships, so why not show your true self? you can hate homosexuals for all i care, but at the very least, respect the decisions of others. Your the type of people are the reason atheism exist, what kind of person would be in a religion you can't even express your true self?  
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Gothic-Bunny-13 Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Your religious shit makes me laugh my ass off
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AngelsOfEmpathy Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2014  Professional Artist
I hope it makes you feel good about yourself. :)
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Gothic-Bunny-13 Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
You disgust me
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AngelsOfEmpathy Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2014  Professional Artist
Lovely. :)
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Gothic-Bunny-13 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Homophobic rabid christian asshole
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AngelsOfEmpathy Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2014  Professional Artist
Biggoted intollerant heterophobic hater.
:D
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Gothic-Bunny-13 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Are you Butthurt, eh? :iconbutthurtplz:

I am not a bigoted heterophobe~

It is just you being an Intollerant asshole who are flaming on gays 

Do you want me to respect you or something??
Sadly no.
Respect isn't something that I do to idiots like you

and what happened to " Love Thy Neighbour As You Love Thyself " ?
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SweetestSnow Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2014  Student General Artist
Fuck you.
People's marriage is NONE of your buisness
If you trying to force your religion on others, and make laws based off what it says, then YOU are the problem.
Love is LOVE, trying to restrict it makes you look like a crazy hate filled bigot.

You're going to hell, since you're not accepting of others, and since you can't even love they neighbor.
You're just as bad as being racist.
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AngelsOfEmpathy Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2014  Professional Artist
None of my business..?
Marriage is a blanket constitution. And i am UNDER it, like everyone else.
You change marriage, it affects EVERYONE under the blanket.
Go to hell with your hypocritical bigotry.
You are intolerant of marriage and its institution, you'd rather change IT then yourself. Selfish.
You cannot say where i am going. But your intolerant bigotry is certainly narrowing the road your running down.
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JaniceTheFurry Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
this made me laugh so fucking hard oh my god
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Limnoria Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2013
Holy fuck, who gave the caveman Internet? Go back to your wall drawings, Gurpgork.
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:iconthe-last-sea-serpent:
Please don't use caveman as an insult. Think of all that your Stone Age ancestors accomplished.
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Limnoria Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2014
No. 
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theubbergeek2 Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2013
The Bible said so. But maybe it's not the right religion (well, source of). maybe it's the Quran and Islam. Maybe the Sutra and Buddha. Or none is real.

See the issues?

You let dogmas cloud what is right for all.

God if he is real AND good, do not care for such trivial details, like sexual orientations.
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AngelsOfEmpathy Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2013  Professional Artist
You are not God and therefore you cannot speak for him unless you a prophet or speaking the Word to others.
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So what gives YOU authority to tell us about God?
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AngelsOfEmpathy Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2014  Professional Artist
Um.. God..
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:iconthe-last-sea-serpent:
So why exactly does an all-powerful being depend on people like you to tell an entire race his decrees? If God is truly omnipotent, why not just tell ALL humans DIRECTLEY and avoid all the uncertainty and mistranslation?
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AngelsOfEmpathy Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2014  Professional Artist
He doesn't. People tell because they WANT to share the Word and their testimony's of healing and salvation. God has made all his decrees clear. If man didn't write it down, who would, horses?.
He did tell directly, made it abundantly clear.
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The Bible is NOT a direct source. Even if the original stories were, they have now been translated and rewritten too many times to have any shred of credibility. And again, what evidence is there that the Bible is the word of God? If it truly was of divine origin, then why is it obviously mistaken on so many scientific facts?
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theubbergeek2 Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2013
And so your priestly types.

Religion is a link between the you and God, so in theory, as Boddhidarma shown, everyone can touch the Truth.

Beside, and thkfully, God is not nedded actually for right and wrong, moral and ethic.

Homophobia is wrong and unethic.
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AngelsOfEmpathy Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2013  Professional Artist
Homophobia is a lie, no one is afraid of homosexuals so it's already a null word.
Clearly you know religion but you don't know what's right.
The truth. Jesus is the truth, the way and the life. All other religions rant about reaching the truth when one man IS the truth, if you want to reach the truth, just ask Jesus into your life. it's easier then breathing and doesn't take a whole breath.
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theubbergeek2 Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2013
Homephobia is actually not a bad word, as it all boils down to 'OH NO, THE EVEEEL GAYYYYYYY'.

The Truth is, this is just a bullshit Appeal to Authorit.
Droning on 'God said so'.
If God is ready to send a whole group of peoples who can have TRue Love as much as others just because of 'they are the ghey sodomites',, it's evil.

YOU do not know what's right and wrong.

And beside, why Jesus IS the truth, why not Muhammed, Buddha, none?
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DarkSideDuck Featured By Owner May 2, 2014
That's one of many reasons why I am atheist: many diferent religons, all saying the same, that they are right, and the others are wrong, not to speak about the flaws that arguments for believing in any god have, If you wwant some exaples, here are they:

The claim: The Bible says that God exists. The Bible is the inspired word of God, therefore whatever it says must be true.

The flaw: Circularity. God exists because the Bible says so, and we should trust the Bible because it is the word of God. This argument assumes the very thing (God) we are trying to prove. The same argument and logic can be used for any text that is considered revelatory--the Quran, the Torah, the Book of Mormon, or anything else.

The claim: The presence of miracles points to a supernatural force or god; miracles do occur, therefore there is a supernatural force or god

The flaw: The fact that miracles exist does not prove that they were caused by God (they could have been caused by an ancestor spirit). Thus this argument commits the fallacy of begging the question--it assumes that which is to be proven.


Separately, it is impossible to prove that miracles occur because in order to prove that an event occurs, you must use the laws of nature, but miracles by definition are violations of the laws of nature.


Source: hubpages.com/hub/Proofs-for-th…

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devALLjapan Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
100% support this:rose:
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MiraKHall Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Here-here.
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blackblood13 Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I second this notion. Were do I sign?
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TrickyCreature Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
YES! Down with theocratic attitudes! Separation of church and state!
Free love!
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WaterbendingQueer Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2012  Student General Artist
:rofl:

Talking about Catholics more or less.
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boblikesoup Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2012
well put
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DestructoWad Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I hate these kinds of ideology wars.... Hence why I usually take no sides whatsoever.
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Deborah-Valentine Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
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MinimalDisaster Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I am a Christian and I agree entirely. I love people and if they love somebody then I love that person, regardless of a lot of different factors- including gender.

If you're a Christian I plead with you- Live your life and let everyone else live theirs. Even if they are wrong and are living a sinful life, so what? There are other people around you who are too, whether you see that side of them or not. Focus on the ones who truly NEED help just to get by living their daily lives. Let anyone who has found love enjoy it. They don't want to be confined by your closed mindedness just as much as you don't want their 'lifestyle' forced on yourself.
That is the end of my two cents.


P.S.
I'm also a amateur writer and have a lesbian couple in one of my stories and I have felt no conviction or guilt for it whatsoever.
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devALLjapan Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:heart:
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trillianheart Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
definitely agree.
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MinimalDisaster Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Glad to hear it.
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Deborah-Valentine Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
very interesting and YAY for compassion and exploring different views and the curiosity to explore different ways of being
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MinimalDisaster Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
<3
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RainGirl2009 Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2012  Hobbyist Filmographer
I so agree
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DannyFields Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2012  Student Artist
Huh. That's a good point.
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AmberAwesomeSauce Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Please dont hate all Catholics...I'm a catholic...and I totally don't mind if you guys or girls date or fuck the same sex! I DONT CARE! it's your life...not mine, so why should I stipulate how you live it? You don't bash on mine, so why should I bash yours... LIVE LONG AND PROSPEROUS! and adopt many beautiful babies that need a loving home :)
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devALLjapan Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
lol lovely, this deviation isn't of hate though.
:hug:
I don't hate catholics at least :P They is people just like me and santa wait my mistake santa is't real :noes:
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rationalhub Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2012
"Please dont hate all Catholics"
Uh, why do people assume that just because someone's being critical of their ideologies/religion, that necessarily entails hating them as a whole? If you support LGBT rights, way to go! Nowhere does it imply hatred against Catholics as a whole. Every human being deserves respect, not necessarily their ideologies. I have several valid reasons to be critical of religion and the Church, but that doesn't by any stretch of imagination mean I hate Christians or Catholics.
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ChristineIsDEAD Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2012
This.
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MadamMichi Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
To the guy above cite your sources on the science or shut up. (to lazy to reply to him/her)

Anyways, it took me a few minutes to get the top, I was like "Who does what now?" then I got it , and I laughed pretty hard.

Free country, means your religion does not rule

oh yeh and the roman empire fell because of homosexuality,.........oh the hilarity
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