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I don't believe in Charity... by rationalhub I don't believe in Charity... by rationalhub
Interesting perspective, so made a poster on it :)
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Master-of-the-Boot Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Anti-socialists always give me shit, saying that churches and charity will care for the poor. 

No they don't. 
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MissMuffinTop Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2014   Writer
...and when they do, they're all selective, sanctimonious, and terrible about it, as though certain kinds of people should starve to death. 
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Master-of-the-Boot Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Especially after that shit with the salvation army denying support to LGBT people
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MissMuffinTop Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2014   Writer
That was one of the things I was referring to. 
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2014
After seeing it thrown around a lot, I've come to realize that "the solidarity of the proletariat" is a sweet-sounding way to say "Don't think for yourself".
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TBSchemer Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013
"It respects the other person..."

...Except the people you seek to take stuff from through your solidarity.
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kazi2000 Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Correct !
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Mymagic1212 Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I'm sorry... I don't understand...

What's wrong with charity, why does it go down? ._.

I mean, I guess you could be saying that.. uh... charity is giving to people because you feel sorry for them, but uh...

I think thats not really a bad thing .-. unless that's not what you mean. xD idk euugh.
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billkhosby Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012
Galeano means that charity is the hegemonious class (top) giving to the proletarian classes (bottom), thus vertical (up-down), and that solidarity is is unity and care within one class, thus neither going up nor down, but rather left and right.

Why Galeano doesn't like charity from the top to the bottom is obvious - because it is humiliating, because it doesn't address the real issues, because it isn't genuine (often PR coups, see Trump offering to donate $5 million to any charity in return for Barack Obamas school records), etc.

I'm not a fan of Occupy, I knew it would capsize the second it emerged because it was filled with class collaboration and liberal concepts and ideas, but "rationalhub" is correct when s/he says that there is a big difference between "charity is bad" and "I dont believe in charity".

Charity isn't necessarily bad, but it shouldn't *have* to exist. It is a result of the material realities and conditions of the world we live in. And it does not address these issues, it is merely a pretty poor bandaid on a problem springing from the roots of all hierarchial and class systems.
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rationalhub Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2012
There is a massive, massiive difference between "I don't believe in charity" and "Charity is 'bad'". And the rest of the portion offers the explanation as for why.
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TheRemixMaster Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That is interesting ;3
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ulyferal Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
You're right, it is indeed! Thanks for sharing.
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wuestenbrand Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Great Work .. :D ..
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Dravazed Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012
Done. Thanks.
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Dravazed Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012
This is excellent. Let me know if you'd like it tweeted.
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rationalhub Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012
Sure! :)
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Malice-Ataxia Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2012
say that when your starving. when your hungry high minded philosophy is the first thing to go.
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rationalhub Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2012
Uh, if the quote is considered to be true, how would it become worse than Charity?
It doesn't say "don't help others" - actually solidarity would imply that you're more obliged to help others than doing "charity" - and there would be no sense of superiority involved there. That's all.
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Malice-Ataxia Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012
with true charity there is no sense of superiority. if that feeling exists what the person is doing its not true charity.
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bttlrp Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013
Charity IMPLIES the very concept of superiority. That is disgusting, a society that promotes the concept of charity is a disgusting one rife with inequality.
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Malice-Ataxia Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013
as I Said with true charity there is no sense of superiority. if that feeling exists what the person is doing its not true charity.
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bttlrp Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013
The ACTION of charity implies a hierachy. If someone deserves your pity and your charity then they are necessarily underneath you - charity can only exist in a position of inequality.
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Malice-Ataxia Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013
bullshit. charity is defined as: benevolent goodwill toward or love of humanity period Im sorry but i refuse to accept your new definition.
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bttlrp Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013
That is Charity as traditionally construed (as a christian virtue). Charity as an action (which you were talking about originally) is:
"The voluntary giving of help to those in need who are not related to the giver." [link](practice)

"char·i·ty
/ˈCHaritē/
Noun
The voluntary giving of help, typically money, to those in need.
Help or money given in this way."

Or check out these: [link]

Dictionaries commonly distinguish between the christian virtue and the charitable act. We are very obviously talking about the latter.
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OldDeviantMark Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013
I pity you.
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bttlrp Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013
What's with all the porn in your favourites? Kinda weird bro :S
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autogestion Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
charity is the rich giving whatever they feel like to the poor
solidarity is helping the poor take from the rich

paul vi quoted st ambrose when he issued the populorum progressio encyclical
you are not making a gift of what is yours to the poor man
but you are giving him back what is his
you have been appropriating things that are meant to be for the common use of everyone
the earth belongs to everyone
not to the rich
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Malice-Ataxia Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012
what if i am the poor man? what if im the even man? or the rich man? giving in the spirit of giving for no gain what so ever is charity. and charity is Always good. i also believe the earth belongs to everyone no one owns earth sky or water. but a man/woman cannot live on earth Alone.
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autogestion Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
i m certainly not going to argue that those who give to charity are all evil people
that would just be silly =]

the main difference is one of agency
who is the subject and who is the object
who performs the action and who is the target of the action

if the poor have to rely on charity to survive
then they are not in control of their own lives
someone else is the master of their destiny

while charity can certainly be performed out of the goodness of someone s heart
i would say it is far from adequate
by taking the side of the poor in their struggles
by supporting and helping their actions
then you are helping to put their destiny in their own hands
making them the main characters in their own lives rather than a spectator in the determinations of their fates

by standing in solidarity with their struggle to survive
they no longer have to starve while waiting for help
they can take matters into their own hands even if the forces of oppression are against them
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rationalhub Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012
I don't think there's something like "true" or "false" charity. If a person does Charity, regardless of the intentions, it's Charity, period.
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Malice-Ataxia Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012
I don't agree with you.
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rationalhub Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012
Well obviously you don't. That's not the point. If someone does Charity for feeling superior, it's still Charity. Which is why solidarity is preferred over Charity (according to Eduardo at least) where respect for the other individual by definition comes into picture. Just so that it's clear.
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Malice-Ataxia Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012
im glad we had this talk
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:iconrationalhub:
rationalhub Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012
The feeling is mutual! :)
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The-Avatar Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
How about both?:)
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rationalhub Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2012
:no:
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The-Avatar Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
But surely, to have either without the other diminishes each?
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ChristineIsDEAD Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012
I would also prefer both. Charities are more effective than myself in many ways, while I can do some direct actions on my own without restrictions. But that's just me. :D
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The-Avatar Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
One is short-term, the other has much longer-lasting effects. I believe both are necessary, as charity can often breed solidarity.
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ChristineIsDEAD Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012
Indeed.
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CorvusCorax92 Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Glad to hear someone else agrees with this. This is the same Eduardo Galeano who wrote 'Open Veins of Latin America', yes? Great book, though I would definitely temper it's positions (vis a vis Latin America) with a healthy dose of Hernando de Soto.
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rationalhub Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2012
Yep, and thanks for the recommendation - not a big reader, but it's on my to do list :D
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CorvusCorax92 Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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